Not A Bug Lands that can become creatures & Graaz Unstoppable Juggernaut

charall

New member
Having Graaz out, and then activating Blinkmoth Nexus's ability does not make my creature 5/3. I wonder if this is also problematic for other creature lands such as Mishra's factory, Mutavault, Inkmoth Nexus, etc. (match 267131902, game 871915100).
 

Neo001992

Well-known member
This is correct behavior, and not a bug because of how timestamps are applied in layer 7. If you were to animate Blinkmoth Nexus and then play Graaz, then the Blinkmoth would be a 5/3 for the rest of that turn. Although every animation after Graaz came into play would cause Blinkmoth to turn into a 1/1 because that animation ability would have a newer timestamp within layer 7.

613.4. Within layer 7, apply effects in a series of sublayers in the order described below. Within each sublayer, apply effects in timestamp order. (See rule 613.7.) Note that dependency may alter the order in which effects are applied within a sublayer. (See rule 613.8.)
  • 613.4a Layer 7a: Effects from characteristic-defining abilities that define power and/or toughness are applied. See rule 604.3.
  • 613.4b Layer 7b: Effects that set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value are applied. Effects that refer to the base power and/or toughness of a creature apply in this layer.
  • 613.4c Layer 7c: Effects and counters that modify power and/or toughness (but don’t set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value) are applied.
  • 613.4d Layer 7d: Effects that switch a creature’s power and toughness are applied. Such effects take the value of power and apply it to the creature’s toughness, and take the value of toughness and apply it to the creature’s power.
613.7. Within a layer or sublayer, determining which order effects are applied in is usually done using a timestamp system. An effect with an earlier timestamp is applied before an effect with a later timestamp.
 
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