owlandcrab
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Bug: The Great Aurora shuffles tokens into the library and lets players draw those tokens.
Expected behaviour: While resolving, The Great Aurora will shuffle all permanents and cards in hands into their respective owners' libraries, including tokens. The tokens will cease to exist upon becoming part of a library (see Gatherer link below). Then each player draws cards equal to the total number of cards and permanents shuffled into their library.
Actual behaviour: While resolving, The Great Aurora will shuffle all permanents and cards in hands into their respective owners' libraries, including tokens. The tokens continue to exist upon becoming part of a library. Then each player draws cards equal to the total number of cards and permanents shuffled into their library. The cards drawn include the tokens shuffled into the library. (Match # 264872404 - Game # 862844668)
Gatherer ruling:
22/06/2015 A token is owned by the player under whose control it entered the battlefield. Tokens shuffled into a library count toward the number of cards drawn, though they cease to exist upon becoming part of a library. Regardless of what you're using to represent tokens, you won't shuffle that physical object into your library.
My assumption is that the game is following CR111.7 as written. Since The Great Aurora is still resolving, SBAs have not been checked and the tokens will continue to exist, allowing players to draw those tokens. However, CR111.8 covers the scenario of a token leaving the battlefield and trying to change to a different zone.
CR111.7 A token that's in a zone other than the battlefield ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)
CR111.7 A token that has left the battlefield can't move to another zone or come back onto the battlefield. If such a token would change zones, it remains in its current zone instead. It ceases to exist the next time state-based actions are checked; see rule 704.
Expected behaviour: While resolving, The Great Aurora will shuffle all permanents and cards in hands into their respective owners' libraries, including tokens. The tokens will cease to exist upon becoming part of a library (see Gatherer link below). Then each player draws cards equal to the total number of cards and permanents shuffled into their library.
Actual behaviour: While resolving, The Great Aurora will shuffle all permanents and cards in hands into their respective owners' libraries, including tokens. The tokens continue to exist upon becoming part of a library. Then each player draws cards equal to the total number of cards and permanents shuffled into their library. The cards drawn include the tokens shuffled into the library. (Match # 264872404 - Game # 862844668)
Gatherer ruling:
22/06/2015 A token is owned by the player under whose control it entered the battlefield. Tokens shuffled into a library count toward the number of cards drawn, though they cease to exist upon becoming part of a library. Regardless of what you're using to represent tokens, you won't shuffle that physical object into your library.
My assumption is that the game is following CR111.7 as written. Since The Great Aurora is still resolving, SBAs have not been checked and the tokens will continue to exist, allowing players to draw those tokens. However, CR111.8 covers the scenario of a token leaving the battlefield and trying to change to a different zone.
CR111.7 A token that's in a zone other than the battlefield ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)
CR111.7 A token that has left the battlefield can't move to another zone or come back onto the battlefield. If such a token would change zones, it remains in its current zone instead. It ceases to exist the next time state-based actions are checked; see rule 704.
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